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076 - Would You Rather... Holiday Party Edition!

Would you rather... Have an open bar or avoid the party altogether? Invite spouses or make everyone suffer alone? Tyson and Alexa square off and go full 'this or that' style on the topic of the season: the infamous holiday party. Are you team FOMO or team JOMO? Listen in to decide.

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Alexa

Tyson.


Tyson

What is up?


Alexa

Tis the season. Tis the season. Dance is our second to last episode before we take a week off and fucking get rid of 20, 22.


Tyson

Can't wait.


Alexa

I am ready. I am ready for 2022 to be over for lots of reasons, truthfully.


Tyson

But yeah, this is because this is like a tough year for sure. It's a tough year. I think everyone's kind of feeling out a little bit.


Alexa

I feel like everyone was like, oh, 20. 20 was tough. Oh, 21 20. 21 was tough. And now everybody's like, no, 20. 22 has definitely been the worst.


Tyson

Wait, is this just going to happen every year now? Like, 20, 23 is going to be, like, complete shit.


Alexa

I fucking hope not. I don't think I'll make it.


Tyson

Yeah, but I think. I feel like I remember there was this, like, viral thing going around. I think it was either 20, 17 or 2019. And there was this viral thing that everyone was like, this was just like the most boring ass year of all time. Like, it was just like a generally like, shit feeling year. I want to say it must.


Alexa

Have been 2017.


Tyson

It might've been 2017. And just like everybody was talking about, it was like viral online Instagram. People were like, Oh, nothing happened this year anyways. And then, you know, a couple of years later problem.


Alexa

Yeah.


Tyson

Over all of our lives were just shaken up.


Alexa

And I feel like the novelty of COVID has worn off Like, we're, it's no longer a COVID year, but like it is officially post-COVID, quote unquote.


Tyson

Oh yeah.


Alexa

And so and so all the shit that you like thought was going to come back like officially isn't coming back and like all the shit that, like, is new that you weren't down with, like is officially real life now. And, like, so now you're just dealing with the fucking, like, new norm and not all of it's awesome, you know, and now it's just cold and dark all the time.


Alexa

So my soul is damp, my soul is down, but.


Tyson

Weather does not.


Alexa

Help. I'm back in New England and my soul is damp.


Tyson

You got to go back to Mexico.


Alexa

I'm on my way, but I'm on my way. I buy the next episode in 20, 23. The two episodes from now, I will be somewhere fucking warm because.


Tyson

Like, that's the thing.


Alexa

That's always cold.


Tyson

Like, as a Canadian, I don't have a lot of options. Like, it's cold in the east or cold in the west or somewhere in the middle. But like, do Americans have the luxury of literally being able to live in a tropical climate?


Alexa

We could be, yeah. We've got all the things.


Tyson

People choose to live in. I don't know. I don't want heat. I'm like, Cuba to my no, we don't, you know, Vermont, we can't get we can't get into the US. Like, if I could just like gallivant off to, like, Miami, like, you could I would probably do that now. I would not go to my can. It rains like crazy there.


Tyson

And I went I went to Miami one time and it rained the entire time, but well, you.


Alexa

Can't go and rainy season and.


Tyson

It rains like ten.


Alexa

Minutes from springs.


Tyson

Maybe somewhere in the desert.


Alexa

Yeah, man, we got all the climates, you know, all the climates. All the climates. Yeah, but I'm still going to fuck off to a beach somewhere because I'm over this shit already.


Tyson

Well, I don't blame you. I don't blame you. If I could, I would.


Alexa

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Alexa

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Alexa

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Alexa

Maybe not in full effect, but they're back. Yeah. And we're going to start with a of an interesting story which is about a French employee who has to fight for his right not to party, as you so aptly put. That was your joke. I stole it. So basically, this guy was like, I'm not going to participate in after work drinks and these like bullshit Team-Building activities.


Alexa

You guys, I just want to go home. And he was sued by because excuse me, he was fired for not attending these activities. And so he sued the employers obviously in France, so different different roles. But he basically was fired for, quote, professional incompetence, specifically for his refusal to adhere to the company's, quote, fun values. So according to the court, which is like France's high France's highest court, the Court of Cassation, and shout out to John Hyman for his wonderful LinkedIn right up about this.


Alexa

We miss you, John. He they basically ruled that it was an exercise of his fundamental freedom of expression. Which is their official term, that he's not required to go to these things and it is not a basis for termination. So this guy was like, I'm not going to your stupid fucking after work drinks and I don't want to participate.


Alexa

And they fired him. And France was like, yeah, you can't do that. He's allowed to like express his his fundamental freedom of expression, of not going we don't have that law here in the United States. So that's one thing that's important to know. We do not have that protection a quote unquote fundamental freedom of expression. Which is, you know.


Tyson

Why you can be fired for saying stupid shit on.


Alexa

Social media and other things, but fascinating to think that someone would get fired for not attending the social gatherings at a at a company.


Tyson

I have a what they call the joy of missing out. I don't like JOMO. I have JOMO hard core. I do not like participating in social events. I do not like participating.


Alexa

We know how much you love team building.


Tyson

So I cannot stand ice breakers. I don't want to be anywhere near that. I actually had just been in person with people and like you're.


Alexa

Just an introvert with a big personality.


Tyson

The team building like it caused me so much anxiety. Like, I just I'm not interested. I do not like it. I we're going to have a whole and I'm like this like we are.


Alexa

I'm like the asshole that tries to win the team building. I'm like, Captain fucking America.


Tyson

Yeah. So, like, TBD on like an episode around team building, but like, I'm this, you know, all the power to this guy to fight for his right to not party because, like, you shouldn't be forced into doing it. And, like, I actually get this a lot where managers are like, oh, they're not social on the Slack channels and they're not participating in the team events.


Tyson

And I'm like, just leave people alone. We have Slack fatigue, we have Zoom fatigue. Speaking of, like, post-pandemic, we're like the.


Alexa

Fans it's too much. And also, like, if you've got someone that's like habitually missing things or like really isn't participating and you've given them a variety of opportunities to participate in that, aren't just like drinking events? Like there's probably another dynamic there that you need to be aware of, like either a family dynamic or like there's, there's just like there's something else going on if someone's really not interested in engaging with the team and it might be like they just don't get along with the team very well.


Alexa

Like, Yeah, that's something to be fucking aware of.


Tyson

If anyone is planning any sort of fun, team building, etc. activities, do it during the workday. Like people want to go to their we spend so much time at work, have some of the fun during the workday versus like expecting people to be there like after hours or on weekends when they should be with their family unless and we're going to get into this, unless there's like some sort of family component to it because like honestly, like for me at the end of the day, like all I care about is being with my baby.


Tyson

Like I don't want to like be roped into doing more work stuff, especially socializing. Like, God forbid.


Alexa

We just talked about the four day work. We with Ryan may like whether or not that actually works. We express our opinions in a few mediums, but like it's you've got time to take 3 hours and the day early and fucking enjoy each other and 3 hours we'll spend here.


Tyson

Yes, it's probably well spent.


Alexa

Yeah. You know, look, I don't think I think the idea of like ending every day at 5 p.m. is fucking bullshit. But like if you're going to plan something like be cognizant of everybody's like different obligations and shit and like, yeah, I don't know, I more power to this guy for standing up and being like, you can't, you can't fire me for this shit.


Alexa

I do my job. My job is not to be social at the bar with you guys. Yeah. All right. Well, with that said, I'm very excited for the rest of our chat, which is that's a bit of a sneak preview. So we're going to a fun format for today's conversation. We are going to talk about holiday parties and we're going to talk about at H.R. at the holiday party.


Alexa

And we are going to do this in the infamous this or that format. So for those of you who've not listen to this or that, this is kind of a fun sort of podcast styling choice. But basically I'm going to list two different options and types, and I are going to discuss our preference between those options. So we've got three different this or that's for two different categories.


Alexa

And the first category is just holiday parties work holiday parties in general. So we're just going to start with like the the general foundation here. And then we're going to talk more specifically about H.R. and H.R. at the holiday party. So you ready for this, Tyson? Our very first is really excited.


Tyson

I'm ready. I'm ready.


Alexa

All right. Drumroll, please. This or that number one holiday party at the office or holiday party at a bar.


Tyson

At the bar, because the food in the drinks will most certainly be better.


Alexa

Okay. So I'm going to say if I have to choose between the two, which I think is the rules.


Tyson

You do? Yeah.


Alexa

I'm going to.


Tyson

Say.


Alexa

I'm going to say at a bar because it just will definitely feel more festive. However, I would say I wouldn't. And it hard to do it this or that when you want to actually want to add like four options. Like I actually think the coolest holiday parties are the ones that are like a proper like gala at like a fucking like, like Universal Studios or some shit.


Alexa

Like obviously that's like a big company thing. And I have I have hosted four teams before, like we've cleared the furniture out of the office, like let's have a banger in the space because it's just cheaper. Yeah. And you can fit a lot of people and people don't have to worry about like parking and blah blah blah because you're ready.


Alexa

No, all that. But I would say, yeah, you got to get people like into a festive location. And so I feel like you got it. You got to get out of the office.


Tyson

Yeah. Like bar or restaurant.


Alexa

Bar or restaurant venue.


Tyson

Just like a nice brunch spot at like 10 a.m. you know, you're you're up.


Alexa

To here at brunch, you bitch.


Tyson

Okay, maybe, maybe a little, you know, or like.


Alexa

Some mimosas.


Tyson

And an early happy hour, you know, sneak out at about three, everybody risings up by five. Yeah.


Alexa

Yeah, I like that. I like that. Or just like a boozy lunch. Like, I remember my my.


Tyson

Boyfriend, like, not going back to work.


Alexa

No, no, no, not yet. No expectation that anyone was going back to work. Like, it was like a four hour it was a Mexican lunch. It was 4 hours long, and there was lots of cocktails if you wanted them. And the expectation was like, you'll be out of here by five or not or we'll after party. All right. No.


Tyson

No, no, no afterparty for me. Do not put me down for the after party.


Alexa

All right.


Tyson

After party sleeping. So if.


Alexa

The officer that was go home or next move your you're on the go home train.


Tyson

Literally, you can give you the option between almost anything in the world and go home and I will pick go home.


Alexa

Oh, my God. This conversation can be so boring when we're like in our forties. So really, we had to record this at 8 p.m. and Tyson's asleep. So it's just me.


Tyson

Oh, this is awesome. Okay. Okay, let's go. All right, all right.


Alexa

All right. So next, this or that? All right. Holiday party to invite spouses and significant others or employees only.


Tyson

So I'm going to have to do a caveat to this one. If it is the big gala, you know, all sorts of people there I want my spouse there with me. But if it's just like an after work, like just the team, like just like like, you know, just a little team after we're kind of like what we were talking about, maybe a quick happy hour, that sort of thing, then definitely no spouse.


Alexa

Okay, this isn't about you, Tyson. This is about what's right for other people. I'm just kidding. I want you do not me.


Tyson

I thought this okay, we're playing. Would you rather pay people?


Alexa

Because I really think.


Tyson

Would you rather.


Alexa

Yeah, this is this is just a podcast or would you rather so yeah. So I guess I think I agree with that. I was actually just talking to my sister about this, so they, they she works at a company and she's sort of like, you know, typical startup. She's the CEO's de facto head of H.R. because no one listens to our podcast and hires H.R. when they should, but they're debating whether or not they should.


Alexa

So they're planning a ski weekend as like a team building activity. And they're like, Oh, should we, should we allow spouses and should we pay for them? And I'm like, If you want a team, build over two days of skiing, you should not allow spouses because you're just going to suck all the energy away from the team. However, for the holiday party, like that's a great I think I think inviting spouses and significant others is a great opportunity when it's a casual local.


Alexa

Hey, I want to get to know the context of the people I work with, right? Is I actually think it's really helpful to have spouses and significant others in the mix when you can for barbecues and all that kind of stuff, because it tells people like these are the people that are important to my colleagues right now.


Tyson

Family contacts.


Alexa

Yeah, anything. Just anything that's like more casual, easy, like but if you're and the goal is, is just general merriment, right? Like the goal of the holiday party is general merriment, right? The goal of a team building event is like the team to bond not oh yeah. Bond with spouses. Right. So I think I'm all for it. I have previously hosted holiday parties where I've flown in the significant others of people and it's been really appreciated and everybody's had a blast I think.


Alexa

Yeah. I think for holiday parties it's, it's, it's significant others and spouses. However, the question really becomes if you're single, I may or may not be single right now depending on when this airs and how I'm feeling for the day. Like do you bring a date or do you just go solo, go stag? This is like a wedding where you like get a plus one or not.


Alexa

This is like assume like if you have a plus one, you get one. So do you take one?


Tyson

Well, I would say yes. Look, I've been on holiday parties in the past where it's like literally like a bar. There's food and there's drinks, right. And it's like just like you're going to the bar and but except all the people that are there are people that you work with and their spouses. So you just sort of like mule around and that sort of thing.


Tyson

And in those types of situations, sometimes it's nice to have a spouse as well because it takes like the pressure off of like a conversation in total, like me and what I'm getting, I'm like, if.


Alexa

You don't like your colleagues.


Tyson

I can just talk to my husband. Or like, it just creates like, you know, it's like you don't really have anything to talk about because you see these people all the time and like, yeah, you don't want to talk about work. It's like, oh, you know, any travel plans for you guys this winter? And like, the conversation just flows a little bit.


Alexa

I wonder if we if there was like research done or maybe we should do it of like if you invite spouses and significant others to holiday parties, like are people on better behavior? Oh, like is there less incidence of fucking crazy driving you?


Tyson

Like, I don't.


Alexa

Know, just from a Lamaze.


Tyson

Yeah, totally.


Alexa

I can tell you that when spouses are around, there's less drama. But I can answer my question, like, do I like in that instance, do I bring a date if I know everybody's like married around me and, like, bringing spouses and girlfriends and boyfriends, like, do I bring somebody.


Tyson

I think you'd be the same. Like, would you bring that person out with, like, your friends?


Alexa

Yeah, I think it just depends on if you like if I like my colleagues or not.


Tyson

Like the person. Like, if, if it's someone that you, like, want to, you know.


Alexa

Not like, I got to find a date. Yeah. Yeah.


Tyson

I wouldn't rush out to find a date. Yeah. Okay.


Alexa

That could be I could be a real a real, like, roll of the dice to just bring, like, a complete newbie to your, like, company holiday date.


Tyson

Hey, I've got this, like, swipe right.


Alexa

Swipe right to come to my holiday party. That's. I'm sure it's been done.


Tyson

I think there's a movie about that. I think it's called Holiday. But anyways, I I'm not.


Alexa

I don't. Yeah, I don't do holiday movies. All right, moving on. This one's good. This one's a good Segway. So next, this are that under holiday parties in general category is drink tickets or open bar?


Tyson

I'm going to say drink tickets.


Alexa

Oh, I know. You're I'm the fun one.


Tyson

Yeah. I can say drink tickets and like.


Alexa

Open bar all day. All day.


Tyson

First of all, I don't think it's the company's responsibility to pay for people to get wasted.


Alexa

Second wild party.


Tyson

You don't need to drink to have fun. Alexa. Okay.


Alexa

We literally started this podcast with you telling the story about how you cracked a beer at a company party, and everybody was like, H.R. is here.


Tyson

Yeah, but like, having a drink ticket and multiple drink tickets, like, sure. But like, I don't think that people need to be getting plastered, and people do. And this is what I, of course. So there was a situation we're going to go back to the end of this conversation. We talked about how cold Canada is. There was a really sad situation that happened in Canada where an individual got wasted at a holiday party, went home, passed out in his front yard and died he died because he froze to death.


Tyson

And like, this is the sort of shit that I don't want to worry about. Like, I don't want that on my living, on my conscience. Maybe this is just me being too. Ah, in like there's so many logistics that go with like people drinking, like you need taxi chips or Ubers or whatever. So like, I think we can we can have merriment with three drinks or two drinks.


Tyson

We don't need to have more than that.


Alexa

So I so I always will air on the side of treat adults like adults. So I don't need to be rationed. Sometimes I can have four drinks and be stone-Cold fucking sober and sometimes I can have one drink and feel tipsy. A lot of factors that go into that one. Is there food if you're going to have alcohol, you have to have food in, in Boston in most venues that is actually legally mandated.


Alexa

If you have a gathering with alcohol of a certain size, you have to have food pulled on.


Tyson

And that's an even bigger if there is no food.


Alexa

Well then you're just asking me for fucking trouble.


Tyson

Absolutely.


Alexa

And there are no one you can try to mitigate. Exactly. Like if you want to say everybody gets like, you know, 30 bucks reimbursed for an Uber tonight. Don't worry about it. Don't drive like don't be an asshole. Those are all really good, thoughtful measures to having a gathering. I just don't believe that if you're going to have a gathering and a party to celebrate that you should be like, Oh, but I don't trust you to have more than two drinks.


Alexa

I need to hand up fucking tickets. Like everyone should be an adult and I'm sorry, but like, the guy who passed out in the cold, like, is probably maybe does this and steps the bounds on this. His alcohol usage in other situations too. And like there's only so much you can do to mitigate that. Like you don't obviously want to be the employer that encouraged it, but like you also can't keep your employees from going out together after the party.


Alexa

So like.


Tyson

Here's three people.


Alexa

Like adults keep.


Tyson

It, sure they're safe. Here's the other anecdotal problems that I have with this is that there are a lot of people, especially now young people are like choosing to not drink it's like a whole thing. They're called like sober kids or whatever. For you it is. And there's a lot of people that for one reason or another choose that they don't want to drink.


Tyson

And what I anecdotally experienced is when there is an unlimited amount of alcohol, there's a lot of like people pressuring other people to drink or like, you know, ordering drinks for everybody. And it's like, oh, come on, like, you know what I mean? So there's just a little bit more of that that happens. Look, if you asked me if I was planning a wedding.


Tyson

Absolutely. If there's not an open bar, I'm going to be pissed. Like I like.


Alexa

I don't if it's not okay.


Tyson

Right, right.


Alexa

Don't invite me.


Tyson

It's fine. But I just like I don't want people to be to feel pressured in a work situation to either drink when they don't want to or drink more if they don't want to. And but again, people need to be adults, but they aren't.


Alexa

People need to be adults. But also other mitigating factors. You should have a mocktail on the menu. You should also I mean, look, people can you can do drink tickets and people can barter for drink tickets. I've seen it a hundred fucking times. If feel like you can use your drink ticket and then all of a sudden, like, some asshole's got a drink tickets like it doesn't like if people want to get rowdy, they're going to get rowdy.


Alexa

The other thing you can do is you keep that shit short. So you're like, yeah, it's open bar. But the open bar has a limit it's cut off after 2 hours, like so you have your fun for a year or 2 hours or 3 hours or however long the party is and you have your fun and like, the waitstaff knows, like, no shots and like, we don't do shots.


Alexa

Oh yeah, I know. It closes at 3 hours and. Right, like, keep the budget in check as well. So I don't know. I think you can do open bar and do it well and be thoughtful about how to set everybody up for success. And I would also argue like you, the, the to your point about like ending the day early, not only does like everybody kind of like that anyway, but also like I would venture to guess like the the number of incidents you have when your holiday party ends at five or six versus your holiday party ends at like eight or nine is probably like much lower.


Alexa

So like, you know, happy hours probably if you're worried about it. It's a lot of people like probably a little smarter than like, oh, we're going to take everybody out till 10:00 at night. Like yeah, okay. It just depends on the situation and what you can afford. But I'm open bar all day. Kids like parties party, go work.


Alexa

So it goes. Yeah, everybody knows I love an open bar. All right, moving on. So we're onto our second category. We're halfway through this holiday, this or that. We're going to move to H.R. at the holiday party. So this is specifically about how you feel your choices based on being at the holiday party. Okay.


Tyson

Okay.


Alexa

All right. I already know your answer to the first one, but.


Tyson

It's not even a question.


Alexa

This is not even a question. You basically already said this, but stay late or leave early.


Tyson

Leave early.


Alexa

Leave early. Really, like arrive late.


Tyson

And leave early.


Alexa

Just cameo. Just cameo that ship.


Tyson

Just you'll be seen.


Alexa

Walking through and go.


Tyson

I actually like to listen to like another podcast like a while ago about like, ways to, like, make yourself seem cooler. And that was actually like one of the things you never, ever, ever want to be the first person third episode about.


Alexa

The other shit. We listen to because I need to hear all about that.


Tyson

But you don't ever want to be the first person to arrive and you don't want to ever be the last.


Alexa

Bit too available. Don't be too available.


Tyson

You don't want me to available. So you just want to like make a quick appearance, talk to you need to talk to and then once the conversations reach some sort of like fever pitch. Yeah, get the hell out.


Alexa

Everybody knows when that happens to like, you know, at a party when like shit it.


Tyson

Starting to.


Alexa

Turn towards the second half. Yeah. And like, you need to know if you're on to get the fuck out of here train or like that. I'm taking this to the next bar train. I am usually clearly on one team or the other. I never medal cool. All right. Yeah, I'm, I'm. It depends on the team. It depends on who I am in the in the room to like, if I'm if I'm the boss, I don't stay late.


Alexa

If I'm you know, if I'm with colleagues and peers that I really like, sometimes I'll be the first one to get us to the next bar. It just depends on the situation. Yeah. I also think it depends on your level of comfort in these scenarios in general. Like, I would argue, if you're not like rule of thumb, if you're not socially the person that's like taking your friends to the next bar or like even out with your friends for drinks, like as a normal part of your social standing, doing that shit with your colleagues is not a good idea.


Alexa

Like, don't be like, Oh, I'm the shy guy that never goes out, so let me go be like the next move guy with my colleagues. That's how people get fucking shitty and weird. Like, keep your social norms the same. Like, don't try to be the party guy with your colleagues. If you're not the party guy with your front.


Tyson

Line.


Alexa

It's going to backfire.


Tyson

The other way around, we might need to like water it down if you are someone who likes to like go absolutely wild, maybe you to like real it back a little bit with your right.


Alexa

But like my point is like stay in your comfort zone like with obviously knowing that you're at work like this. And I will I will say like if you're the asshole that treats work like a frat house, like you're an idiot, like just don't do that. Like just know you're at work. You're still at work. You can have fun, but you're still at work.


Alexa

Okay. All right. Cool. Moving on, next one at the holiday party. H.R. only or H.R. with the company. So I think this is I think H.R. like an H.R. only holiday party versus H.R. with the company at the.


Tyson

Company ALBA Party. Yeah, I am an.


Alexa

Asian POM.


Tyson

I am an H.R. only fan. I, I think we don't do it often enough. Like, so when I'm gathering, I often gather with my clients. Right. So I'm usually like with like people in the business, you know, I'm wearing my H.R. hat all the time, no matter what. And yes, there is an aspect of like being cool, H.R. and whatever, but there's just an element of letting loose that you can do when you were with H.R. only.


Tyson

And I also say that if I was with H.R. only, that influences all of my other answers. Like I would say late I would want an open bar. I don't want my status there, and it would be better at a bar. So like it's just a completely different thing.


Alexa

This is like our own version of like Girls Girls Weekend who's like H.R. these are a minority party.


Tyson

And this is actually fun.


Alexa

Because you can fucking relax because you basically look.


Tyson

Like it's your team that oftentimes, like, people you don't really like. There's yes, you are a team, but there's not always like a really strong team aspect to the role because you're kind of like off working in silos. And so it's really a valuable time to just be with your H.R. colleagues.


Alexa

Yeah, look, I'm all about the like enter team parties, like whether it's or not, like, I do think there should be a core party where everybody, everybody together, that's like the whole fucking point. But I'm all about the like, oh, this team goes with their manager, Taylor, I'm sure. Oh, our partner took us to whatever. Um, yeah, I think I could see how it's like fun to just be among peers where everybody kind of understands the same rules of engagement, right?


Alexa

Yeah, that's dope. All right, last one. Ready? H.R. at the holiday party. Drunk person on the open mic or catching canoodling in the washroom, or, as we say here in the States, the bathroom.


Tyson

Which would you.


Alexa

Rather would you rather? Well, yeah. Would you rather find a drunk person on the mike or or I guess watch a drunk person on the mic or catch someone canoodling in the bathroom?


Tyson

Definitely catch a drunk person on the open mic. Mostly because then there would be witnesses and it would make my job afterwards a hell of a lot easier. In a past life, this actually did happen oh, yeah. There was, like, this whole situation after where, like, our manager talked to us about being at the holiday party. And what does that mean and what our responsibilities are at?


Alexa

What did they say?


Tyson

So it was that, you know, H.R. is is always a representation of the company. And I guess, like, what happened was the question was, okay, like should have should have stepped in or should another leader have stepped in? And the answer is that another leader should have stepped in. But because you are H.R. there, you're like hack. Like you kind of have this, like, feeling that you need to do it.


Tyson

And basically, anyways, our our follow up from that was like, you know, choose wisely whether or not you want to go to the party. At least that's how I interpreted it. And then we all sort of like opted out. We were like, fuck this. We'll just like do our thing.


Alexa

I hate.


Tyson

That. And which sucks. Yeah, I know that. That's what sort of problem. Yeah, exactly.


Alexa

That's the fun police problem. Like, you're just guardians of a you're stewards of a good time, right? And it's not a good time for anybody to get up there. Fucking load it on the mike, like right front for anybody, right?


Tyson

But and so it's not fine and like, but at least like there is a de-escalation pathway that, like, makes a lot more sense, you know? Hey, you know, come over here, have a glass of water get the fuck off the mike. Versus, like, catching people in the washroom, like, oh, that's just like a nightmare for me.


Alexa

Like, I was so I would so prefer that I would. So I'm. We haven't done our and foreshadowing on 2023. We have some very fun topics coming up, but like we haven't done our office romance episode yet. And I'm like all about the office romance drama like I live for that shit. Well, I've been in them. I've, I've facilitated them.


Alexa

I've done I'm all about the like colleagues, like the hooking up thing and so for me this would, it would just be super fun to catch people because I'm like, oh, I can confirm without a doubt that the drama I thought was happening is fucking happening. So for me it would be very validating what.


Tyson

If there's like spouses involved and stuff? Because I've dealt with that as well.


Alexa

Where's the popcorn, baby girl? Bring it on. Bring it on.


Tyson

All right. All right.


Alexa

I mean, you're just each H.R., their spouses are not your problem. Like.


Tyson

You know what, though? Until they do make it your problem, if I not told the story on this podcast or we're like, yeah, we're like, I was like talking to this guy who was, like, crying because he cheated on his wife in the office and, like, he, like, recorded the conversation or like, how does, like, wife on, like, speakerphone or something for the conversation that I was like, he wanted me to validate that he had nothing going on with this woman in the office.


Tyson

I'm like, how can know? I was like, so young to like, this is like.


Alexa

Not an abuse of H.R.. That's nice of H.R..


Tyson

How did I get here?


Alexa

That is not a healthy boundary. Jesus Christ. All right. Well, I have I have one last. This or that.


Tyson

Okay.


Alexa

Idris Elba or Charlie Hunnam.


Tyson

Idris Elba. Always.


Alexa

Always. He's so hot. Always. He's such a steak. I know. I don't know. I think I might go Charlie Hunnam on this one. I don't know. It's hard. It's hard. I like them all. They're all very sexy. But Charlie Hunnam is like British and rugged. And Sons of Anarchy is like a fetish of mine. So.


Tyson

Yeah, I do like Sons of Anarchy, and he is in a new show that looks interesting, but no, I'm going to have to go with Idris.


Alexa

Yeah, I don't know. They're both steaks. Holidays, steaks all around. Yes, please. All right, well, if you're at your holiday party this year, don't be a fucking idiot. Keep your drinks to a minimum. And have a.


Tyson

Fun party.



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